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." thank you. gregg: this lawmakers do not reach a deal with regard to the fiscal cliff cuts will go into the defense department. >> reporter: the whole package of spending cuts is $1.2 trillion, half to the defense department. the army, navy, air force marines would take equal cuts according to one analyst who says the impact on the military overall will be, quote, very serious. >> the pentagon and the departments are already in financial trouble, because there has already been a $480 billion cut that is being applied right now as we speak. to take another cut on top of that is devastating. >> reporter: it's not just the military itself that will take a hit, also the defense industry, defense contractors, private companies that do work for the pentagon. one democratic congressman in northern virginia whose district maybe hit the hardest by all of this says it could mean layoffs. >> the large defense contractors will probably be okay, they have significant cash reserves, most of them. the smaller contractors would have trouble getting their lines of credit extended, trouble keeping t
. >>> and for some, the biggest objection to the fiscal cliff is the cuts to project defense spending. they warned it's bad news for national security. peter deucey explains who mean affected. >> reporter: last friday when president obama rolled out his new plan for steering us away from the fiscal cliff, there was a word he did not say and that word was sequester. the sequester would automatically cut more than $100 billion from the budget next year, half from domestic programs and half from defense programs and now as the deadline draws close, experts are looking at the cuts from a national security standpoint and warning one final time about heir safety of the service members. >> and that is going to affect the operational force deployed in terms of its ability to maintain its equipment to quiet re-- get repair parts and that is around the world, not just in afghanistan being reduced and it would impact on the training of the force and the preparedness to conduct other operations. >> reporter: white house officials are saying that it's still unclear what is going to happen with the sequester o. fr
. >>> the looming fiscal cliff is forcing president obama to cut short his christmas vacation. the deadline is only six days away. the president plans to leave hawaii today and head back to washington to meet with lawmakers. where heed he and his wife, michelle, spent christmas visiting u.s. troops and their families in hawaii. to beat the january 1st deadline senate majority leader harry reid is said to be crafting his own fiscal package. it would extend the bush era tax cuts for households making less than $250,000, extend long-term unemployment, short-term spending cuts, and make a scheduled drop in medicare reimbursement to doctors. house speaker john boehner said they've had no communication with senator reid. >>> the exconwho ambushed and killed two volunteer firefighters in upstate new york may have murdered his sister. her body was found yesterday, and police say william spamglor had the same kind of military rifle used in the connecticut school massacre. he left behind a chilling note. >> reporter: the christmas eve fire in western new york burned seven homes to the ground, but police say
of the looming fiscal cliff includes a painful dose of automatic spending cuts that would kick in just a few days from now. our military would be on the receiving end of a lot of it. a half trillion dollars in cuts over the next decade. it has a fancy name. it is called see -- sequestration. many warn of job losses and even the impact on the national security. now, the news on this from washington. >> harris, last friday when president obama rolled out his new plan for steering us away from the fiscal cliff there was a word he did not say. that word was sequester. it would cut $100 billion from the budget next year, half from domestic programs and half from defense programs. and now as the deadline draws close, experts are look at these cuts from a national security standpoint and warning one final time about their impact on the safety of our service members. >> it is going to affect the operational force that is deployed in terms of its you ability to maintain its equipment and get repair parts. that force is deployed around the world. it is not just the force in afghanistan that is being reduce
you very much. part of the looming fiscal cliff includes a painful dose of automatic spending cuts that would kick in just a few days from now. our military would be on the receiving end of a lot of it. a half trillion dollars in cuts over the next decade. it has a fancy name. it is called see -- sequestration. many warn of job losses and even the impact on the national security. now, the news on this from washington. >> harris, last friday when president obama rolled out his new plan for steering us away from the fiscal cliff there was a word he did not say. that word was sequester. it would cut $100 billion from the budget next year, half from domestic programs and half from defense programs. and now as the deadline draws close, experts are look at these cuts from a national security standpoint and warning one final time about their impact on the safety of our service members. >> it is going to affect the operational force that is deployed in terms of its you ability to maintain its equipment and get repair parts. that force is deployed around the world. it is not just the force
. >>> aloha means good-bye. president obama cuts his hawaiian vacation short to deal with the fiscal cliff. it is already too late? good morning, 7:00 in the east. i'm alina cho. >> and i'm drew griffin. soledad o'brien is off today. "starting point" begins right now. >>> our starting point, a cruel one. a one-two christmas punch from mother nature. tornadoes and blizzards tearing through the south and midwest. >> oh, my god. we need to go. it's right there. >> mobile, alabama, took a real beating. a twister blowing up transformers, leaving more than 25,000 customers without power. reports to damage to homes, a high school, and church. >> it came in behind the church right there, and then all green fluorescent lighting and popping transformers left and right. and we heard the crashing and everything and the power went out. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could, and i was just praying for my safety, and i knew the church was shaking. i just prayed that the church stayed put. >> here is the other half of this story, blizzard conditions blanketing much of the midwest and the northeast will ge
start. early numbers point to a tough season. tracy: a nice and shiny fiscal cliff. president obama cut his vacation short. we are tracking where it is headed next. we are expecting negotiations to continue tomorrow. there is talk now that that may not happen. time to head down to the new york stock exchange with nicole petallides. nicole: merry christmas to everybody. the vix, the fear index, has been to the upside. whether or not washington will solve the worries about the so-called fiscal cliff approaching quickly. here is a look at the dow. 13,100 even. most of the dow components are under pressure. hewlett-packard doing well and bank of america in the financial round. it really is being laid upon by the retailers. i no adam shapiro will add on to that. there is a look at some movers. michael cores down over 6%. tracy: i was in the balls this weekend. lori: crowded theater not like i thought it would be. adam shapiro in the newsroom with the details. i thought it was way busier last year than it was this weekend. >> no. here are some numbers. for the period of october to eight and d
will be cut before new year's to avert the fiscal cliff by extending tax cuts temporarily or tax cuts from people under $250,000 of income. i spoke this morning to a republican member of congress who said, we still can come back next week, and we can still do it, although, you know, mara was talking in her piece about shoppers who think they get a better deal the longer they wait. it's a worse deal for the republican party having waited this long, having gotten beaten on the plan b that speaker boehner was trying to do. the terms are getting worse for republicans, not better. >> a lot of people watching this will say if congress couldn't reach a grand bargain with a self-imposed deadline, this so-called fiscal cliff, when will they ever get together and do something big? is there hope beyond the 31st and 1st of this year that eventually there will be a big deal? >> well, i've always been perhaps excessively optimistic about this, but i think, yes. look, members of congress understand that we have a long-term fiscal problem. they have different visions for how to achieve it. the republican
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. >> some hope for talks on the fiscal cliff. with just five days until the country tumbles into automatic tax hikes and spending cuts the president has scheduled a meeting. danielle nottingham on the efforts. >> reporter: top congressional leaders are expected to meet with president obama at the white house friday. this would be the group's first face to face meeting since november 16th and a last minute chance to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. if no deal is reached taxes will go up for nearly every american and harsh spending cuts will kick in on january 1st. senators reconvened on thursday with tension spilling over on to the floor. >> speaker boehner is unwilling to negotiate. there's nothing happening. >> the phone never rang and so now here we are five days from the new year and we might finally start talking. >> reporter: senate majority lyddite harry reid skewered house speaker john boehner, charging he's more interested in his leadership position than in bipartisan legislation. >> the speaker's number one goal is to get elected speaker on january 3rd. >> reporter: the two sides
as the nation moves closer to the the brink of the fiscal cliff with massive spending cuts and tax hikes cut to automatically kick in. lawmakers will get down to work starting at 10:00 this morning our time. senate negotiators are trying to come up with a last-minute compromise to present to the house. president obama says any bipartisan bill has to extend unemployment benefits, affecting some 2 million americans. he says it must increase taxes on the highest income earners. the president knows neither side is going to get everything they want, and he thinks it's time for house republicans to compromise. it is very important for republicans in congress to say we aren't going to get 100%, at the need to compromise in order to solve problems. >> if there is enough in the agreement for republicans to be able to support it, and we can get a majority of republicans in the senate and a majority of democrats in the senate, then i think there's a good opportunity for a majority of democrats and republicans in the house. >> well, the stock markets appear to be betting against a compromise deal. the d
moves closer and closer to the brink of that fiscal cliff with massive spending cuts and tax hikes set to automatically kick in. they are trying to come up with a last minute compromise. president said any bipartisan bill would have to extend unemployment benefits affecting some 2 million americans. it would also have to increase taxes on the highest income earners. >> just can't afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. the economy is growing, but keeping it that way means that the folks you sent to washington have to do their jobs. >> the president's proposal to raise taxes on the top two percent of americans won't even pay one-third of the annual interest that's now owed on the massive $16 trillion debt. >>> the house returns tonight just one day before a deal needs to be reached. it's likely negotiators will be burning the midnight oil as the clock ticks down to 2013. >> much more on the fiscal cliff this morning on abc's "this week i charles shumer of new york and republican senator john kyle of arizona debate the last-minute efforts. that's coming up at 8:00 this
the president cutting his holiday vacation in hawaii short to get back to work on avoiding the fiscal cliff. the white house says the president is set to return to the nation's capital tomorrow morning to try to hammer out a deal where lawmakers on stopping automatic tax hikes and deep spending cuts from kicking in, which is set to happen, if you're not watching the calendar, six days from now. if they don't reach a deal many say it could send the country right back into recession. ed henry is live in honolulu, hawaii. is this a sign the president sees progress in the talks? >> reporter: well, good to see you. it may be the opposite. the president's not seeing progress and wants to get back to washington as soon as possible to goose the process. time is running out. economists say we could go into another recession if the fiscal cliff is not dealt with. we just learned house republicans convened a conference call with members to say be on 48 hours notice to come back to washington in the next few days to deal with this one way or another. the senate coming back into session tomorrow morning
and some spending cuts of the fiscal cliff. cry from a grand bargain that democrats and republicans were hopeful about. will playe redskins tonight. the redskins can still get in with a loss, but they will need help in the early game. how many layers of burgundy and gold will you need to wear? dave is standing by. bulk if you are going out there. the few women snow showers from yesterday's storm. in the sunshine. 33 at dulles. we have windchill values in the 20's. l be a chilly day from to end.g our high temperatures will be .0's 2 40's about 33 degrees. the winds will start to subside in the overnight hours. lots of layers of burgundy and gold. of the year, seasonally cool. 42-46. may be a mix of rain and snow. thereafter, keep that lead burgundy.
about leading to the fiscal cliff. you have the payroll tax cut that will expire, and nobody is talking about extending back. that is one that will give it the biggest bang for the buck economic allies. it helps americans the most. host: come out of the cliff are we cutting off, and how much will it -- and how much will we be going off? guest: you're staring at 1 cliff surely, that is 2% of every wage earner but to every $110,000 or so. that will have a pretty dramatic economic impact. beyond that, you'll be approaching a debt ceiling cliff which is another standoff. i assume that is where we will get most of the discussion on spending cuts. that seems to be absent from whatever deal they will be talking about. guest: another way to think about it -- if there is no deal at all, the $600 billion in cliff-related tax increases and spending cuts, if they have some kind of deal, we're talking about $200 billion or so. what we're talking about here is probably the wrong fiscal policy given the time. something in between that, maybe the minimum of $200 billion and the maximum of $600 billion.
the board cut if the fiscal cliff hits. i mean, this is the wrong posture. we don't want people that create jobs, people that decide how many people will be hired in the next year to be having -- to have bad karma now. we want people looking forward in a positive way, how we're going to grow into new markets, how to export more. we need the country to be more competitive so we can export to china, mexico, export to canada. that's critical, growth. if we have growth, we hire more people. dagen: drew, thank you, great to see you. happy new year. >> thank you, go rg iii. dagen: yeah, babe! we'll kick the cowboys you know what into mexico. drew, thank you, be well. end on a positive note. positive newses too for the housing market, recovery on the way. anthony sanders is here saying washington better not screw it up. in a show of arms, iran's military moves and what that means for the price of oil and gasoline here at home. look at how oil is trading today, well above $90 barrel a mark, down just slightly, but close to 91 bucks. ♪ [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us onli,
with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls behind as he gets back to work to try to prevent tax increases and spending cuts due to begin next week. there's just one problem. it appears there would be no house republicans to help hammer out a deal.
big tax hikes that are part of the fiscal cliff. also big cuts in government spending that could make 2013 a pretty rough year. congress is ending 2012 with a real problem. >> when the future of the country rests in the hands with 70 and 80-year-olds is not the best thing. >> the vice president appears to be taking over for democrats after a republican counter offer to prevent tax hikes was met by silence. harry reed said democrats couldn't respond. >> i'm willing to get this done but i need a dance partner. >> reached out to the vice president whose years in the senate could help him broker a deal. probably just a continuation of the bush era tax cuts for most americans and a renewal of long-term unemployment benefits. payroll taxes will go up tomorrow for everyone. a big hit for paychecks and those automatic government spending cuts were still happen. president obama blamed republicans. >> we don't see an agreement and now the pressure is on congress to produce. >> the president talked about making social security cuts. and they now appear to be off the table. which means that just
of the program. he was introducing a bill to soften the landing if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff. the calm act.thit it would allow omb to substitute sequester cuts. more than $100 billion in budget cuts across the board. that is something the new congress will have to deal with. less than 17 hours before the deadline. ellen is joining us from washington, d.c. caller: good morning. i did nothing speaker boehner wanted to cut a deal with the democrats anyway. all this stuff is around president bush. it's not all on obama. host: ok. thank you for the call. harry reid said this yesterday. [video clip] >> the republicans have taken the benefit cuts off the table. there is still significant distance between the two sides but negotiations continue. there is still time left to reach an agreement. host: those negotiations moved into the evening. the house coming back at 9:00 p.m. eastern for morning business. votes would happen sometime after 10:00 a.m. front-page of "the new york times." let me read a few sentences. host: that is the front page of "the new york times." good morning from
cuts that will hit if we go over the fiscal cliff. we are talking about sequestration. burial blakely -- great to see you. >> i think the president has stated very clearly that the cuts will not happen. we have a need for the congress to join him back here and washington and get a deal done. dagen: are you worried that there is so much attention being paid to the automatic tax increases and not dealing with the sequestration that would hit your industry hard? >> you have it exactly right. the slashing cuts in federal programs will begin to affect everyone and affect us immediately. certainly, the defense industry is very worried. the readiness of our troops, the equipment they depend on, the technology that is the united states edged, that is what is really in peril here. we are all worried about that. we are worried about the layoffs that will come in the defense industry. dagen: have any of these cops already started to happen? what have you seen in the activities of these big companies? >> they have already had to start making plans. they cannot make investments. you cannot make in
one is avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> unless the president obama and congress can reach a deal by the new year, tax increases and spending cuts will take deep effect. >> president obama's re-election was one of the biggest political stories of the year. >> with the first of our year enders, here's abc's karen travers. >> reporter: president obama had to overcome a well funded opponent, struggling economy and voter doubts that he had the right agenda to turn the nation around. and after a roller coaster season, he got them. mitt romney may have started off at the front runner, but to win the republican nomination, he had to fend off some feisty challengers. >> he's the worst republican in the country to put up against president obama. >> reporter: and overcome some self-inflicted wounds. after 50 primary contests, romney clenched the nomination and it was on to the general election. >> it will be a choice between -- >> two very different paths. >> reporter: their battle focused on the economy. >> we can't afford another four years like the last four years. >> we need more tax cu
will avoid the fiscal cliff before the year ends. >> speaker boehner was $200 billion higher on spending cuts and out of a $4 trillion budget that doesn't seen insurmountable so i hope they keep talking. >> congress is expected to be back in session thursday and without a deal, tax hikes and deep spending cuts will be triggered on january 1st. >>> coming up tonight on the 10:00 news from flooded roadways to sinkholes. >>> our stormwatch coverage continue as a powerful storm leaves behind a mess in the bay area. >> thank you for trusting ktvu channel 2 news. >> we'll see you the next time newsbreaks and we're on-line at we'll see you tonight at 10:00
. as fiscal cliff talks drag into the 11th hour with $600 billion in tax hikes and spending cuts due to kick in early next year, lawmakers will get back to the table later this week after house speaker john boehner's plan b failed to get enough republican support for a vote last week. >>> still, the market has been resilient. despite friday's decline, the s&p 500 posted its best week in four. and with just five trading sessions left in 2012, the dow has advanced 8% while the s&p 500 climbed 13. the nasdaq has jumped 16%. >>> reports are due this week on pending home sales. sales of new homes and a look at home prices in the nation's 20 largest cities. >>> are you still not sure what to get for the person who has everything? new retail numbers show footwear was the fifth most popular gift on shoppers' lists on black friday. a year ago, shoes didn't even make it into the top ten gifts for the season. >>> good news for hollywood. attendance by moviegoers is up more than 5.5% so far this year. ticket revenue is projected to jump by 6% by the end of 2012 which would be the industry's biggest year
that done or milk prices go up and with the fiscal cliff, massive tax increases and spending cuts. that's the latest here at the white house, back to you. >> thank you, sherri. >>> we've been getting responses to the cliff talks on our facebook page. that's where we asked you, what do you think about congress and the white house not reaching a deal on the fiscal cliff? do you think it's possible that a compromise will be reached before the deadline? tammy simpson writes -- peggy fleming says -- >> a lot of people fired up obviously over this. >>> traffic is back to normal on the springfield interchange, even while virginia state police continue to investigate a deadly accident there. this happened around 7:00 last night when a tractor-trailer stopped in traffic, was rear- ended by a pickup truck. three people inside the pickup truck died at the scene. the driver of the tractor- trailer was not hurt. >>> d.c. police are offering a $25,000 reward for information leading to the arrest in the shooting death of a capitol hill man. jason emma was shot multiple times the morning of christmas e
tuesday. >> the fiscal cliff count down is the big topic on this morning's fogs the morning -- face the nation. there's two big visitors. it starts right after this newscast at 8:30 on cbs 5. >>> plastic shopping bags may soon be the fast. >> the final 2 days for those bags in an entire bay area county. >> a 2012 close, a look back at some of the big stories in the usa. we'll be right back. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, as the new year begins tues the new ban appl >>> 20 minutes before 8:00. one of the biggest counties is jumping on the plastic bag ban. the new ban applies to all of alameda county. the incorporated areas and all of its cities also. stores will no longer be able to give customers one time use plastic bags. customers must bring their own bags or pay 10 cents each for a recyclable paper bag. similar laws are in effect in san jose, san francisco and dozens of other california cities and counties. san jose says since it's ban took effect the number of plastic bags littering city streets has gone down 59%. >>> the rain is gone. we're trying to get used to seeing the sunshine. ryan has m
. >>> now, to the fiscal cliff. still looming large as president obama returns to the white house this morning. the president cut short his christmas vacation in hawaii to get back to washington. congress will be in session today, amidst fading hope that a deal could be reached by the new year. no agreement would mean spending cuts and historic tax hikes for virtually every american. >>> officials in newtown have a message for people who want to send gifts to the grief-stricken town. please don't. they say gifts have arrived in such numbers, they overwhelmed the small community's ability to process them. a fund established after the shooting to support newtown has grown to $3.5 million. >>> meanwhile, hundreds of schoolteachers plan to attend firearms training today in salt lake city. the 200 teachers come from districts across utah. they have volunteered for the concealed weapons training. organizers say in past years, only a few dozen teachers attended the training. they're expecting an overflow crowd because of this month's tragedy in newtown, connecticut. >>> west webster volu
that affect the fiscal cliff? host: more than four years? caller: does that affect our physical cliff? host: that is a larger issue of taxes and spending cuts. caller: thank you. host: bob on the independent line from florida. caller: nobody should worry about the fiscal cliff. asey have everybody's ira's hostage. ira will have to buy ies.sur they are not worried about the budget. everybody that has an ira basically it will have nothing because interest rates will go up so high on the treasury bills in the coming decade. be heldy's ira will hostage. i took money and i put it into gold. i did not pay any taxes on it. possession is 9/10 of the law. let them come and find it. every politician should not take a paycheck. they do not deserve it. they have been bringing our country down. host: in look at what happened jan. uary host: that will happen in january 1 if congress fails to reach a compromise, even a short-term compromise. dan on the phone from massachusetts. caller: thank you for taking my call. i would like to know how many millionaires there are in this country versus the num
. >>> president obama is cutting short his christmas break with next week's fiscal cliff looming large. he plans to return to washington tonight after spending the holiday in hawaii. kristen welker is traveling with the president. good morning to you. >> reporter: savannah, good morning to you. the first lady and first daughters will remain here and continue their hawaiian holiday. the president and first lady spent part of their christmas visiting with troops stationed here in hawaii, thanking them for their service before they sat down and enjoyed a tradit n traditional christmas dinner. the night before president obama called service members stationed overse overseas. when president obama returns to d.c., he and lawmakers will have just days to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. here is where everything stands. last week house speaker john boehner failed to get his own bill through the house. so now things are in the s senate's court. leaders there will have to come up with a compromise to avert the tax hikes and spending cuts set to go into effect during the first of the year. president obam
until we all go over the fiscal cliff which would mean everyone's taxes will go up and sharp spending cuts will go effect that could drive our economy back into recession. to abc news white house correspondent jonathan karl filling in today for george stephanopoulos as host of abc's "this week." >> hey, jon, good morning. i know today and tomorrow obviously hugely important. can you sort of walk us through the potential order of operations? what could we see play out today and tomorrow? >> well, it is right down to the wire, dan. what's happening right now is harry reid and mitch mcconnell, the top democrat and republican in the senate are still negotiating their staffs at this hour. they are supposed to be working until about 3:00 this afternoon when the plan would be presented to both caucuses. as we understand what they are talking about is the bare minimum. basically the senate negotiating to extend those tax cuts for everybody making under $250,000 a year and do extend unemployment benefits also they're talking about trying to do something to stop the automatic spending cuts that
the spending cuts. what happens if we go off the fiscal cliff for a few days. >> not much is my understanding. it's much more what the market psyche will do and with respect with the tax hikes and cuts, the hit people take is not as much as the rhetoric suggested early on. what weather it's enough to get back to negotiating things, i agree with you that we will go over the deadline. that's the big question of what kind of political ramifications we will have. you will have a chunk more on the payroll. there is a cut because of the sequestration. >> all of us are aware that most people at the top of fortune 500 companies look at these claims saying this is ridiculous. you couldn't run any business the way they try to run the country. is there any immediate impact on the markets next week with their inability to get anything done? >> yes. that's the biggest impact by far. yes, the payroll tax will take effect and that will be one of the most immediate things we see, but it takes two weeks to adjust your paychecks and spend more time repairing and restoring and trying to solve that. the market d
. his holiday vacation so he could deal with the looming fiscal cliff. all eyes are on that now and everyone wondering whether congress will be able to reach a deal by january 1st. if not, spending cuts and tax hikes for every american will go into effect and we're watching that story very, very closely. as i mentioned, just five days left before the new year. but wait, before they bring out the champagne and confetti on the 31st, folks in washington need to start making big decisions regarding that fiscal cliff. here's what will happen if no deal is reached. the economy could fall into a recession. that's been widely reported. the congressional budget office forecasts a drop of .5% in the real gross domestic product and a 9.1% unemployment rate by the end of next year. markets in the u.s. and around the world could take a hit. right now the dow is down almost 100 points. no santa clauz rally this year. managing director of the boston consulting group joins me from chicago. great to see you. happy holidays. let's talk about the effect on the economy. i think it's important to po
this all along, go off the fiscal cliff. >> i think that he sees a lot of cuts to the military, which the democrats have been after for a long time. and then he gets to do what he loves to do, which is blame republicans. my concern is that i actually see financial problems for our nation at the bottom of the cliff. the president was really interested in the level of the debt we have in this country, the $16 trillion, we would have had a budget pass the senate sometime in the last three years. he proposed a budget, none of the democrats even voted for it. >> juliet: remember, they're having a meeting in a few hours and with all the sniping going back and forth, particularly from janer and harry reid, they'll be in that little room together. it should be interesting. >> eric: brass sew makes a good point and i agree that president obama probably wanted to go over the cliff from the very beginning, but i don't agree where he said at the bottom of the fiscal cliff is something bad for america. it will be tough medicine to take, we've been talking about it, spending cuts to defense, no one
, if we go over the f 'tis cal cliiscal cl should buy some room. the fiscal cliff is a cut in taxes and a cut in spending which should relieve some of the spending toward the debt limit. it is a factor in terms of long range planning for the united states government. but actually going over the cliff might buy some more time. so i think what secretary geithner was doing was sort of issuing a warning saying we should take care of this now. whatever the plan is in the last five days or even if it's right after the new year should probably take into account the fact we're going to need more room under that debt ceiling at some point. >> jonathan allen, we'll rely on you throughout this crisis to see what's going on. thanks for joining us this morning. >> take care, drew. >>> he was hoping he'd be home by christmas but former president george h.w. bush is still in intensive care at a houston hospital. he's got an elevated fever. the nation's 41st president is on a liquid diet. he's listed as guarded. he's the 88-year-old bush coping with christmas in the hospital? well, his spokesman qu
's still no deal preventing the economy from going over the fiscal cliff. members of congress are pointing fingers over who is to blame for the lack of progress to prevent tax hikes and spending cuts. connecticut's independent senator joe lieberman expects congress to work right up to the new year's eve deadline. but he's not even sure that's going to be enough. >> it's the first time i feel it's more likely we will go over the cliff than not, and if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time. >> the president and congress are on short holiday breaks right now. due back later in the week. one possibility is a partial deal on taxes while putting off an agreement on spending, therefore kind of kicking some of the can down the road, once again. >> and that seems to be what congress is good at. no problem ever gets solved. there's no grand bargain. we heard that term tossed around. seems like we just do a little bit and then say oh, we'll get to it by summer and get to it by the fall. and nothing substantive really g
to reach an agreement or the u.s. economy will go off the so- called "fiscal cliff." that's when automatic spending increases and cuts would take effect. reaching a deal won't be easy because both sides are involved in a high stakes political blame game. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> i told the president we would be happy to look at wah he proposes but the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline and as i said this is a conversation we should have had months ago. >> reporter: democrats want to extend the bush-era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making $250,000 or more a year. many republicans are against any tax increases. most americans just want something to be done. >> people are just tired of partisanship and they want everyone to come together. >> reporter: if lawmakers don't reach a deal by january 1, many economists are concerned it could eventually lead to another recession. i'm
to avoid the fiscal cliff? if so, what are they? >> well, obviously, there are cuts in the budget. we know we have to cut some of the mandatory programs and do other cuts, but it has to be accompanied with revenues. willie, i'm getting a little more optimistic today. sometimes it's darkest before the dawn. there are two good signs for optimism today. one is that leader mcconnell is actively engaged. you can't pass anything in the senate without democratic and republican votes because of the 60-vote barrier. we only have 53. for the first time, leader mcconnell is speaking to the president. if the senate is going to be the place where action starts, you need both of them there. the second reason for optimism is boehner is back at the table. because you can't pass something just through the senate. we see what a mess the house is. they couldn't even pass speaker boehner's own plan b. the fact that he's come back and the four of them are at the table means to me we could come up with some kind of agreement that would avoid the main parts of the fiscal cliff, particularly taxes going up on mid
's tax cuts that he passed after we went over the fiscal cliff, it then loses whatever upside there was for republicans, except, and we have to mention this, for republicans vulnerable to primary challenges, there's obviously a lot of anxiety about being, you know, the first republican in 20 years to vote for a tax increase. i think that's the big fear, that it's been so long. republicans haven't cast this kind of vote. you don't want to be the first one to do it. >> yeah, and charles, we're told the democrats may be waiting until the very last minute. maybe they're banking on pressure and the gop caving. what should americans make of that? with so much at stake here? >> i don't think it is. i think there's gamesmanship on both sides, that's obviously true, but i think democrats understand they get a better deal out of this if they actually go over the cliff. what the president was offering, his last round of offers, was in fact something that a lot of democrats and liberals did not take kindly to. in fact, when boehner was not able to pass plan b, he threw the president a lif
could drive the nation over the fiscal cliff, that their opponents have something to gain by letting the deadline pass. do they have a point? do either have anything to gain if there's no deal in time? >> right now, both sides are trying to win a pr war. as we have been saying, it's increasingly likely we go over the cliff. now there's just a lot of posturing. for republicans. it's a lot of arguing to the base because what they're trying to do, they can't be seen as raising -- voting to raise taxes on people. for democrats, it's positioning for the larger public because they have to be seen as, in their view, upholding the president's promise made during the campaign to increase taxes on the wealthiest and hold them down for middle-class americans. right now, the polling is with the president and with democrats. but if we go over the cliff, it's not hard to project that in a few weeks' time, all of that is going to shift, and the american public will blame everyone in washington, and everyone will be hurt. so the two sides have to make a deal in short order, whether it's before janua
into the swipe of things. plus, could a tumble off the fiscal cliff hurt the markets? one trader says don't fall for the hype. first business starts now. you're watching first business: financial news, analysis, and today's investment ideas. good morning. it's friday, december 28th. i'm angela miles. in today's first look: watch your neck. the market is a head-turner. yesterday the dow dropped more than 100 points on word out of washington a resolution to the fiscal cliff was unlikely. but president obama returned early from vacation and is said to have a new proposal to offer congress, sparking a rally that left the dow down just 19 points. reports are swirling apple is moving production of its mac mini computers to foxconn plants in the u.s. apple may also be working on a smart watch. and, the new york stock exchange landed the most ipo for 2012. larry levin of trading advantage joins us now. larry, it feels like we are already hanging off that cliff. > > it definitely feels that way. everybody is obviously watching for some kind of news out of washington. that is what has moved the market eve
now and there is still no deal preventing the economy from going over that now infamous fiscal cliff. members of congress are still pointing fingers over who is to blame for the lack of progress. to prevent the tax hikes and spending cuts from aching effect january 1st. meanwhile, connecticut's independent senator, joe lieberman, expects congress to work right up until the new year's eve deadline. he's not sure that will be enough. >> it's the first time that i feel like it's more likely that we'll go over the cliff than not. if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time. >> the president and congress are on short holiday breaks. they're due back later in the week. one possibility in all of this mess is a partial deal on taxes while putting off agreement on spending until some time down the road. >>> former president george h.w. bush may be spending christmas in the hospital. he's been there since thanksgiving. he's battling bronchitis and a lingering cough. doctors say he's in stable condition but needs to
vacation short and heading back to washington before we fall off of the fiscal cliff . can a deal be reached. >> a deadly winter storm unleashing snow and tornados . now thousands ever cleaning up and holiday travelers are stuck. i am tracking where the storm ised hading next. >> thank you, rick. take the gift card and hit the stores this morning. wait until "fox and friends" is over and then leave. "fox and friends" begins right now. "fox and friends". >> gretchen: good morning, i am gretchen carlson we are joined by clayton morris . rick as well . these are great guys, but clayton, because he is a tech guru of folks news and here to help all of us today. >> tech support this morning f. you have tech-related questions. send them and i will attempt to answer them all. i answered all of them. my wife said what are you doing on twitter? i said i am helping me. >> gretchen: we have big storms brewing and rick, you are aptly sitting to the right of me and you will help people get out of town. >> 30 tornados and a big one in mobile, alabama and more tornados and a blizzard. i will try
are desperately trying to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff today, hoping to avoid steep spending cuts and tax increases. kristin welker is at the white house where the president had a high-profile meeting with congressional lawmakers on friday. good morning. >> reporter: carl, good morning to you. all eyes are on the senate this morning as majority leader harry reid and minority leader mcconnell true to cobble together a last-minute plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama saying he is modestly optimistic that they can come up with a plan in time. on friday, president obama met with the four top congressional leaders here at the white house for about an hour. sources close to those talks say that the president gave lawmakers two options, either come up with a plan that can make it through both chambers or put his proposal up for a vote. under the president's plan, the bush-era tax cuts would be extended for those making $250,000 or less with rates allowed to raise on top income earners. it would also extend unemployment insurance benefits. president obama saying the time for action is
is the fiscal cliff and yet no resolution just yet. the deadline for heading off tax hikes and spending cuts is now one week away. congress returns from a short holiday break on thursday and at least one senator expects negotiations to go up until new year's eve. one possibility is a partial deal on taxes and putting off spending for later. >>> also new insight this morning into mitt romney's failed run for the white house. comments coming now from his eldest son. tag romney tells "the boston globe" that his dad never actually wanted the top job and he was reluctantly convinced to run for president. "he wanted to be president less than anyone i've met in my life" is what tag said, direct quote. he went on to say that his father is a very private person who simply does not like attention. that's a stunning remark, the money, the time, the scheduling, the scrutiny, the investment. the people around you who come along for the ride. if you don't really want it, why would you jump and devote two years of your life running for the toughest job on the planet? >> i was at the romney headquarters ele
year ticked down today, and with it went any hope of meeting the midnight "fiscal cliff" deadline. house republicans opted not to hold any votes on the issue tonight. so-- officially, at least-- more than $600 million in tax hikes and spending cuts begin taking effect tomorrow. in the meantime, senate republicans and the white house continue working on a possible deal. . >> are running out of time. americans are still threatened with a tax hike in just a few hours. >> new year's eve morning at the capitol began with a warning from senate majority leader harry reid. after a long weekend dush -- weekend of tense negotiations vice president joe biden had spent sunday dealing directly with the senate's republican minority leader mitch mcconnell. and those contacts continued today. by early this afternoon amid reports of progress, president obama emerged in a campaign style setting. >> today it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. but it's to the done. there are still issues left to resolve. but we're hopeful that congress can get it done. but
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